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Manson tied up the couple, then ordered Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel and a fourth clan member, Leslie Van Houten, into the house. You said Krenwinkle said it. How about asking Mr. Peaslee why he wanted a divorce based on her endangering his mental or physical health. Im open to another motive and assuming there probably is one, but cant find the same evidence for it that I can for H/S- all am I saying... By the way Dreath - if you have never seen it you can go to Back Porch Tapes and watch the video of Beatrice Berry Show- or Bertrice Berry? She later regained custody of Tanya from the foster system. He admits things now but this is not "incarceration '69/70. Four or 5 hours after it became dark? Bob Kasabian wanted to go back to Spahn's Ranch to get his daughter, but Linda was too afraid. Exact chronology and constant detail rarely happens, even in nice things we describe. Once the Manson crew arrived on Cielo Drive, the nightmare began. Rebecca Jane Stokes is a writer living in Brooklyn, New York with her cats, Batman and Margot. Perhaps soemthing more general. I believe, in fact I know, others were present when he was killed who were never even charged. The Clinton supporter saying people blindly follower a liar...LOL.Despite her being responsible for mass destruction and chaos over seas, the death of thousands, creation of a monstrous terrorist organization and lying to the American people and blaming Trump for a rise in animosity towards the west and not her own war crimes.Try looking beyond the headlines and surface and try to use that brain. When Manson summoned Kasabian on the afternoon of Aug. 8, 1969, she thought he wanted to send her on another nighttime thieving mission. That means a lot. Her body was cremated and her cause of death was not revealed. I believe her when she says that she was not worried about Tonya's actually being in danger. Because certainly the message couldn't be, "sorry you're in jail bud, but we kicked started a global race war last night". Because her fashions were different. Linda's mother remarried too, but with stepchildren to take care of in addition to her own young ones, Linda's own mother admits that she didn't pay her oldest daughter the right amount of attention. AND were there NOT enough "pigs" in Chatsworth ? Later, Kasabian contacted Linda and invited her to meet him in Los Angeles. Ethan Hawke helped his daughter Maya score the role of Flower Girl in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood: The precocious 21-year-old has one pivotal scene as the Manson Family member (based on Linda Kasabian) who got cold feet and fled the scene of the Sharon… https://t.co/3uknbizHd4 pic.twitter.com/8DD7ydjz9E. Linda Kasabian, Charles Manson follower who helped send him to prison ... Leslie and Linda did not grow up any worse than thousands of other kids. He talked Kasabian into stealing $5,000 from her husband’s friend in Topanga, justifying the crime by telling her “that she could do no wrong and that everything should be shared,” Vincent Bugliosi, the L.A. County deputy district attorney who led the prosecution of the Manson killers, wrote in his bestselling book about the case, “Helter Skelter.”. And wherever she tripped up, she corrected herself somewhere later. It has positive aspects but often, is anything but.Linda is one person people on both sides can agree was no good personally.I wouldn't say that about anybody. “I was like a little blind girl in the forest,” Kasabian said in her testimony at the 1970 trial, “and I took the first path that came to me.”, On her first night at the ranch, she slept with Charles “Tex” Watson, a high-ranking member of the Manson clan. But wait a minute Grim, Atkins never mentions this event to the Grand Jury, not a word. He wants midnight. In 1969 Linda Kasabian was just 20-years-old, but because of the decisions she made in her life, she was very quickly a person whose name everyone knew. How could you skip that? Which has always left it an open ended mystery as to what Charlie told him. Tanya Kasabian was born in 1968 and Angel Kasabian in 1970. So according to you people who defend an alleged mass murderer and those who support Trump are the same "idiots". St Circumstance said...Does it carry any weight that The Actual Killers say they went there to ignite H/S?? They only want one thing. document.write(part3 + ''); In the summer of 1969, she went to Los Angeles. When Charlie meets with Susan, even though she's plumbed him firmly in it with confessions, articles, interviews,a book and a grand jury starring role, she recants and ends up granting herself a one way ticket to oblivion.Coincidence ?Tex and Linda, on the other hand, don't see or have contact with Charlie and stick with their stories {even though we know Tex's is bullshit, some of Linda's is corroborated by Joe Sage}.Coincidence ?Fits her personality (disorder? A short while afterwards, both of her parents got remarried, and her father moved to Miami, Florida. 3. Troubled Home But before she was the notorious Linda Kasabian, she was just little Linda Drouin, born in 1949 in the town of Biddeford, Maine. So when I started my lawsuits, I went to a Salvation Army store and with the luck of the Vikings, some guy had just donated a bunch of HIS custom made Italian suits. or is that just my imagination......running away with me. I thought about going to a house where there were lights down the road and then I said, ‘No, don’t do that, because they’ll find me and kill all those people’. When Manson came out, telling his followers that the couple was tied up, he sent in three family members to kill them, driving away with Kasabian in the car. Back in the day drunkenness and mentally altering ones mind with drugs was considered BAD, because only losers did that. I didn't perceive you as the problem. Pictured: Kasabian running errands on Tuesday View gallery The. After the bulk of her testifying, the judge was petitioned and he signed the papers.How does Linda represent the "Human" side of the Manson story?? According to King, Kasabian’s daughter was tried and found guilty of possession of controlled substances and sentenced to serve time in a Washington state prison. The good guys are the victims, the bad guys are the killers. Linda Kasabian Bio Details. No one knows why. I try not to view life in a binary way. Over here in England, working as a care assistant in a home for the elderly is not really seen as particularly caring work much of the time, it's often seen as a job anyone can do that wants to earn definite {low} money and the overwhelming majority of care workers I've known have not been native to these shores. Maybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do??? How perfect. I'm kinda thinkn' there were plenty of precursors, gleefully ignored, or dismissed.Linda's report cards packed with A's and B's? Actress Sharon Tate and six others were killed under orders from Manson during a two-night rampage that would terrify Los Angeles and bring the 1960s to an abrupt and grisly end. I agree with your comment about multiple angles. Also Known As: Linda Darlene Kasabian, Linda Darlene Drouin, Spouse/Ex-: Robert Peasley (m. 1965 – div.. 1966). IF I was one of the defense attorneys, I would have asked Linda and most other Prosecution witnesses:1) I'm a little confused and maybe you can help us ALL understand this Helter Skelter business a little better. Dreath said...Probably ‘move the goal posts’ was not the best turn of a phrase. You can correct me on that one. Who you are is determined by what you do when you get back up.". Name: Linda Kasabian, Birth Year: 1949, Birth date: June 21, 1949, Birth State: Maine, Birth City: Biddeford, Birth Country: United States. The short youtube is anecdotal but a number of photos show troops of the 7th Cav in the battle of I-Drang valley. Sorry, St. but there is nothing in that video where Krenwinkel talks about HS. I still thought I read something somewhere that Krenwinkel said it at a parole hearing or something. ]MR.KANAREK: Compound, your Honor, leading and suggestive. Plus Tex's born-again act just comes across as to smarmy and sanctimonious. So WHY was Bugliosi and or the DA so obsessed with getting Charles Manson instead ? She . Anyone?Or.....to paraphrase others: Life is going to knock you on your ass from time to time. In 30 years I have had that happen twice I can remember. Q (by Bugliosi). Mind you, what she told Marvin Part was nuclear ! I think part of where our paths parallel instead of cross is training. It must be time for a break. And Ruthann ended up turning out ok- even more of a reason phrases like "Dark to Light" apply- if you have to use them at all.I admit I am a little surprised people will defend Linda Kasabian so fiercely. While she has a husband who is knocking off some other woman and she's worried about her child. She gives so much info on that murder, both the before, the during and the after. At the age of sixteen, she married Robert Peasley; however, the marriage did not last long and ended just after a few months. I think what might have happened with Atkins instead of Kasabian is you might not be talking as much about Helter Skelter as a motive. Like the others, he was convicted and sentenced to death, which changed to life in prison after the California Supreme Court briefly ruled the death penalty unconstitutional in 1972. She lived in secret until a documentary film crew managed to locate her living in a trailer park. Over here in Englang, 'moving the goal posts' can mean altering the rules/argument as and when one feels like it. ID of S.E. Just give us something that casts aside every other piece of evidence that went into the patchwork that eventually made up the case.It'll need to be substantial though.because NONE of them said anything about what took place after LaBianca, until Kasabian got her deal. Grim, Probably ‘move the goal posts’ was not the best turn of a phrase. © 2023 by Tango Publishing Corporation All Rights Reserved. Of course there could have been alternative possibilities. In his testimony Clem part corroborated Linda's account and Susan part did to both Richard Caballero and the Grand jury and then later when she was writing her books.and yet, when one looks at where that apartment was, it seems like another kill two birds with one stone job. [Kanarek realizes something is wrong but whiffs by making too many objections and making them in the wrong order. My apologies Dreath. That gives it more weight than retrospective opinions which sometimes is a good thing, but sometimes is not as in what LVH was ultimately charged with. She was 73. As long as that question hung in the air unanswered, the jury would have a hard time believing Linda Kasabian and Bugliosi's claim that out of all these people who were fully ready, willing and able to murder for Charles Manson, there was one out of the group who happened to be an angel who thought it was simply a "creepy crawl mission" you're on swampy ground because Linda isn't the only one that didn't know what was going on that night. Yeah, all true.There again, some of us have brothers, sisters, Dads, Mums, cousins, close friends etc that are in that vein and we still love them just the same and haven't yet abandoned them, though it may have been touch and go sometimes.You have a different sort of connection to your family and close friends than you do to a stranger who you have never met I hope.Had my brother lived a life like Lindas- maybe I feel some obligation to go above and beyond to feel something he doesn't deserve. Just weeks after joining his ragtag “family” of lost and damaged souls, Kasabian was entwined in the brutal bloodbath that became known around the world as the Tate-LaBianca murders. How do we know she didn't take part in some act of violence?However, when you go on to say but to the jury back in 1969, it was. Some folk are just simply born under a bad sign, cursed with to much anger, desperation and bad judgement in their DNA. I would have testified without a deal" translates when the evidence is revealed to 'I'm not talking even if the sky falls (but I will for immunity)". Ya know- Bugs was never going to use Linda if Susan hadn't flipped on her decision to cooperate.One wonders how he would have spun Sadie if he needed her instead of turning this obvious piece of trash into a little angel?? See the events in life of Linda Kasabian in Chronological Order, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNtPU0K_oo, https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/linda-kasabian-11099.php. If I point all these out here I won't have things to post in the future ;-). Replace something detrimental to his case with something beneficial. Dreath said...When Patti Tate asks Good why her sister had to die. On a different note: RH- nice post. Low level of intelligence: Blanket judging others as having a low level of intelligence because they don't agree with you on your low intellect, racist ideas.Manson Mythos, Obama is:Community organizerAttorneyConstitutional law professorState SenatorUS SenatorPOTUSNobel LaureateManson Mythos:Angry racist moron. . I would have likely done the exact same thing. Best Known For: Linda Kasabian was a member of Charles Manson's 'Family,' and became the prosecution's star witness at their 1970 trial. That is a silly discussion. It is time for the oppressed minorities and especially the black man to throw off the continued vestiges of slavery and seize what is rightfully theirs- take back the fruits of their 200 years of slave labor. Man, that got ugly in a hurry. Crucially, Sadie came out, spoke, watched Tex hit Wogiciech then ran back in again. Matt, thanks so much for the warm welcome back :). Linda briefly married a man named Robert Peasley while she was still 17— the marriage didn't last four months. I gotta say I lean to the Saint here. Of course, I never thought she was an innocent flower child, like VB made her out to be, but he needed her as a witness. Inside, actress Sharon Tate and three others were also murdered, and another man lie dead in his car in the driveway. Just a thought.It brings me back to my favorite question about motive. She was instructed to wait outside and stand guard, while the rest went inside and killed Sharon Tate, Jay Sebring, Wojciech Frykowski and Abigail Folger. And nothing she said could ever be used against her co~defendants.and Leslie lined up right behind her to do the same by puttin' on the crazy brainwashed actYou frequently say this even though it is frequently pointed out to you that this simply isn't the case and demonstrably so. Kasabian, who went on to serve as the chief prosecution witness in the sensational 1970 trial that sent Manson and three followers to prison for life, died Jan. 21 at a hospital in Tacoma, Wash., the Washington Post reported. Linda Darlene Kasabian ( née Drouin; June 21, 1949 - January 21, 2023) was an American woman known for being a member of the Manson Family, a cult led by Charles Manson in late-1960s-early-1970s California. They both got to live out long lives. 'Once Upon A Time In Hollywood' Tells Story Of Linda Kasabian Who Gave Testimony That Put Charles Manson In Jail For Life, tried to tell the story of the Manson murders, Zak Bagans Just Bought Manson Murder House In Los Angeles, Who Is Leslie Van Houten? The Vietnam WAR and those that "served" and those that didn't is NOW becoming a subject of contention. Not because she was some kind of sunshine superwoman, but because others {TJ, Ella Jo, Brooks P, Juan Flynn} did likewise and some of those that she helped condemn to death in the gas chamber backed her up on this, both before her arrest and after. How many of us became murderers or aided and abetted murder? A good example is that Mike McGann interview of Leslie that CieloDrive.com put up. And let's take it a step further - let's only have sympathy for the good looking, and also for those making 100K.Saint, my ass. Manson Mythos said...The recent revelation of the close proximity of the apartment where Saladin Nader allegedly lived and the HQ of the Straight Satans is something that cannot be dismissed as pure CoincidenceOf course it can !In a city where different Family members had various dealings, if some of those places were near each other, what is unusual about that ? It was the year 73. Linda Kasabian was born on June 21, 1949. var part1 = "matt"; His case went like this:"Charles Manson sent out from the fires of hell at Spahn Ranch three heartless, bloodthirsty robots and--unfortunately for him--one human being, the hippie girl Linda Kasabian." One either believes it or one doesn't. Sanctimonious, elitist narcissist is more like it. Testifying before the jury that it was all them and Charlie had nothing to do with it isn't exactly the best way to demonstrate the prosecutor was wrong. Millie McCormack. I personally think if you wrote the HS motive out of this Manson ends up exactly where he is. So did she really have a valid license as was presented in court? How does Linda represent the "Human" side of the Manson story?? Later in 2009, Cineflix Production Company tracked her down and in their docu-drama titled Manson she elaborated on what happened during her four week time with the Manson family. And if robbery or burglary had been the motive, there wouldn't have been any need to print the words in the victims' blood at the scene of both residences. At the very least, he was an accessory before the fact in that particular crime. Do you remember last years motive poll ? Saint, no apology is necessary. I should have found a way and not gone over the fence and run down the hill. She does go on to say that it was because she did not want to face the whole thing while pregnant, but still, she knew she was pregnant when she told her husband, Joe Sage and Jeffrey Jacobs.The intention of testifying I guess only becomes a hot issue after the indictments and at that point, is it really unusual for there to have been some uncertainty on her part as to what she was going to do ?Look at the words Mr. Fleischman uses- I see him convincing her she needed to be a prosecution witnessThat was interesting. He knew the revolutionary struggle had to abandon the failed policies of men like Martin Luther King, the 'old' left and even the 'new' left. document.write(part3 + ''); They killed the people 'Because Charlie told us to.'" She had four children. And for me it doesn't matter so much 'why?'. Charles Manson was in complete control of the ranch and its people and instructed everyone on what to do. ORWHUT: Very perceptive. . Saint- I commend you for your deletions. She wasn't on her own for very long, though. Dreath said...When you get to the heart of it, it is Bugliosi who says the motive was HS (+ megalomania+ anti-social hatred of the establishment+ lust for murderIt starts as being the other way around, HS being last on the list. But my days of name calling with strangers are over, and I don't want to take any focus off this amazing first time effort from Dreath....:). Maybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do?? In 1968, she gave birth to a girl after returning from Boston where she had remarried. Are any of you people aware of the history of Jehanna D'arc...AKA Jone of Arc?Delusional...maybe, but it would be the equivalent of Lesley Van Houten taking her knife and not killing innocent soft targets, but storming the LAPD for her beliefs. She gave birth to Angel and Tanya Kasabian with her husband Robert Kasabian. The figures show that 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) Murders. She was one of the earliest to actually begin the process of putting flesh on Skelter's bones. Therefore, as far as I can see, the description of Linda as a hippy, as was understood by those not in sympatico with any countercultural thought, is pretty accurate. Reality is that some members of the victim's families (Debra's daughter comes to mind) might have been totally unaffected by 8/9/69. There are so many times when he asks Linda if she has understood the question. Linda Kasabian Mary Brunner Sandra Good Paul Watkins This story was originally published in 2017 and has been updated multiple times to reflect the status of various Manson family members. It is time to bring the world-wide struggle- the war, back to the US to raise up the black man and bring down capitalism. I am and was a good friend of Linda's. How do we know she didn't take part in some act of violence?We don't know she wouldn't kill. I stand by the observation that no one is totally bad. Did both sides not do that quite a lot though ? Susan started off saying it, but in a roundabout way {the crime to shock the world and now HS could begin} but from the penalty phase onwards has denied it. When Manson's Family went to trial in 1970, Kasabian was the prosecution's main witness and escaped prosecution. But I'll say no more and wait for the film to be released.Also, if you believe what is written in the Guinn book, while she didn't say Kasabian engaged in any violent acts, she claims she didn't do any of what she said on the stand. I'm affected by tragedies of all kinds, even some of the self inflicted ones.Sympathy is something that just doesn't make sense to me.I can see that !But I feel it for a variety of the players in this saga. I will not praise Deb because she is awesome and already knows it.But no mention of LADY DANGEROUS? Sandy Good said that on a talk show she was on with George and Patti and I think Bugs might have been there too.Thanks though. “She never asked for immunity from prosecution, but we gave it. “I could never accept the fact that I was not punished for my involvement in this tragedy,” she said in the 2009 film. Because the socialist told me to vote for her, despite only weeks earlier being the leader of a revolution against the 1%. QUICK FACTS Name: Linda Kasabian Birth Year: 1949 Birth date: June 21, 1949 Birth State: Maine Birth City: Biddeford Birth Country: United States Gender: Female Best Known For: Linda. Not even in her Grand Jury testimony did Atkins say anythingAtkins was never pushed on it. The more I've listened to people that were around and active in that period, the more I've watched and read, the more I can see that there was a wind blowing that caught many in it's slipstream and so many young people with similar upbringings had similar feelings and ended up in many different directions, some exciting and 'positive,' some not.Even some men that fought in Vietnam committed atrocities that they would never have perpetrated elsewhere or in any other situation; neither were there any clues in their upbringings as to some of these things happening. Clear and simple, murder. She was born Linda Darlene Drouin in Biddeford, Maine on June 21st, 1949. . There but for the grace of....go you and I. Clear and simple, murder. She got lucky Atkins folded, leaving her the only game in town and she skatedAs human beings, we have a most wonderful ability to react and make life changing moves/decisions at the drop of a hat.However, Bugliosi did say that Linda wanted to testify for the prosecution even when they still had Atkins but he got the feeling that Fleischman wanted some kind of deal. Now is the time + (2.) I have also enjoyed all of the comments related to this post...love all of the insights. There are definitely aspects of her being that stink worse than any shit a doctor or vet could extract from a creature of any description. Thing is though, it can be hard to spot or be conclusive at the time because it feels kind of heavy to assume a child or teenager is on the road to ruin due to things they might have done or be doing that haven't yet bloomed into something that everyone holds their heads in their hands about.That job as an aide at a nursing home sounds so kind and sweet.....Perhaps I'm cynical, and she found joy sponge bathing a freshly soiled seniorI don't think you were being any more cynical than anyone else gets when discussing Mrs K and I don't think she was a nursing home aide out of some strong desire to replicate Florence Nightingale. Grim, I have to disagree with you a bit. When Linda was just 16, she dropped out of high school and ran away from home. Not only that, she said she had to go get it from Squeaky and Charlie, if it were not true, would he have remained quiet about it ? She was a former member of the notorious Manson family cult. We believe there to be more than one motive. Thanks DREATH for a great expose on Linda. Their involvement in the murders was soon discovered. But she wasn't raised in Maine, her family. Who Is Linda Kasabian? New Details On The Manson Family ... - YourTango Manson, the mastermind criminal with an "uncanny ability" to brainwash people sent a girl who was on the ranch for a only a few weeks out on a murder mission, and didn't tell her the plan apparently....because she was licensed to drive?NOW. But they also shine a light on the crimes themselves. On August 8, 1969, Kasabian and other Manson followers went to a house in the hills of Hollywood to murder the occupants, but Kasabian never went into the residence. The parts I found 'dramatic' would probably pass many people by. I'm not even convinced 100% she was ever standing on that sidewalk nor am I convinced she wasn't inside the house (yes, I see the inconsistency). Remember, she too was indicted following the Grand Jury. Not only that, they all happened to be dramatic and under the surfaces lurks alternative and more reasonable possibilities.For example: Bugliosi had a problem. I know people are going to scream at my saying the TLB story is not a 'good/bad' one because it is just to easy to tell the good guys from the bad. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) MurdersYesterday :: Today :: Tomorrow :: Where No Sense Makes Sense. Susan's deal was that nothing she said could be used against any of her co~defendants and there was no evidence that Linda had been along on either night.Atkins claimed that the prosecution steered her into recanting but it was she who kept insisting on seeing Charlie, after which, she recanted.One wonders how he would have spun Sadie if he needed her instead of turning this obvious piece of trash into a little angel? Initially believing Manson's message to be peaceful and loving, Linda realized too late that her hero had become paranoid and murderous. But she wasn't raised in Maine, her family (including mother Joyce Taylor and father Rosaire Drouin) moved to another New England town, Milford, New Hampshire, and this is where Linda was raised. . not long after the events in question. He is expressing his opinion just like RH, me, you, Saint, etc. Charles Manson and the Killing of Shorty Shea, Charles Manson Behind Bars: The Crazy Antics and Amazing Revelations Of America's Icon of Evil, Charles Manson: The Man Who Killed the 60s, Charles Manson.
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